Friday, February 3, 2012

England, Driscoll, Macdonald and T.D. Jakes


The month of January has been controversial in the evangelical world. 

On January 14 Mark Driscoll was interviewed about his new book Real Marriage by Justin Brierley from the popular radio show Unbelievable.  Mark Driscoll once again shows that he is not a stranger to controversy.
            Rather than discus his book, Driscoll was drilled with questions concerning controversies in his ministry such as strong language, sexual innuendos, and his strict doctrinal stances.  While Driscoll does a good job of communicating and emphasizing the Bible, he obviously does not appreciate the lack of attention on his new book.  Here are a few noteworthy excerpts from Mark Driscoll:

“I love you but you’re annoying” 
“You’re not being fair, in fact you’re being sort of scandalous and you’re being immature about the issue”
“You’re very squishy, you’re very (*unclear), very British.”

                  The interview gets really interesting towards the end where Driscoll begins questioning Justin Brierley about his wife (who is a pastor) and doctrine.  In the middle of the interview Driscoll says that preachers in England are "a bunch of cowards who aren’t telling the truth." 

Apparently England didn’t like this.

Do you think Driscoll was too harsh? Check it out yourself. 
You can also check out D.A. Carson’s view of Great Britain in light of Mark Driscoll’s statements.
And Mark Driscoll’s own analysis, 

In related news, James Macdonald announced his resignation from the Gospel Coalition on January 24 due to the tension caused by his invitation of T.D. Jakes to the Elephant Room.  The Elephant Room was started by Macdonald to be an annual meeting of Christian leaders to discuss ongoing theological issues and controversies in front of a live audience.  This year's lineup featured the popular author and televangelist T.D. Jakes.  Due to previous association with United Pentecostals and Oneness (anti-Trinitarian) theology, T.D. Jakes has always been a controversial evangelical figure. Needless to say his invitation to the Elephant Room was not welcomed by many members of the Gospel Coalition.  James Macdonald consequently resigned.

Check out his announcement on his blog
http://jamesmacdonald.com/blog/?p=11089

Lastly,

T.D. Jakes is not a Modalist after all!  Or so goes the rumor.  The Elephant Room part 2 featured T.D. Jakes on January 25th interviewed by James Macdonald and Mark Driscoll.  Apparently Macdonald was confident that the Mega Church pastor had abandoned his non-trinitarian views and wanted to give him the opportunity to make it clear.  Here's an excerpt from Jakes, 

"I believe the latter one is where I stand today. One God – Three Persons. I am not crazy about the word persons though. You describe 'manifestations' as modalist, but I describe it as Pauline"

He's referring to I Tim 3:16 and says that what others mean by "persons" he means by "manifestations", but not everyone is convinced.  Some have welcomed Jakes with open arms, calling others to repent, others are hesitant, some are angry, and everyone is upset.  There is a storm in the blogging world over this topic.  Everyone, and I mean everyone, has gotten in on the conversation. 

If this wasn't confusing enough, some have even played the race card.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljH6FdcQQOA

Byron Crawford Loritts, an African American Pastor, has said that "middle aged white Reformed guys" should be extremely careful and called the Reformed crowd to repent of their suspicion of T.D. Jakes.  Voddie Bauchaum responded by calling this attitude "Ethnic Gnosticism" and says that while a white man calling out a black pastor is considered racism, a black reformed man calling out the same black pastor is considered a "sell-out". 

For a recap of what happened in the Elephant Room,
http://www.christianpost.com/news/td-jakes-breaks-down-the-trinity-addresses-being-called-a-heretic-67972/

For Justin Taylor's analysis
http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/justintaylor/2012/02/01/the-elephant-room-what-really-happened-and-how-things-could-have-been-different/

For Byron Loritts' call for repentance
http://www.christianpost.com/news/reformed-crowd-asked-to-repent-for-attacking-td-jakes-68072/

Voddie Bauchaum's part of the story
http://www.gracefamilybaptist.net/voddie-baucham-ministries/blog/elephant-room-2012-01/

3 comments:

  1. if you have a sec, read this article... and then share your opinion with my about driscoll...

    (p.s. just because i'm sending you this article doesn't mean i agree with everything it says.)

    http://thechristianworldview.com/tcwblog/archives/1640

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  2. p.s... remember that time when TD Jakes was totally still a modalist?

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  3. Read it and basically agree. For some reason I'm tickled that she quotes the jMac Study Bible notes for a definition of "rightly dividing the word of truth." Anyway I think Driscoll's gone too far and far too often. People cut him too much slack. But on the other hand, I just heard a Christian yesterday say that he thinks Driscoll isn't saved. It's one side or the other for some reason. He's either the anti-Christ or else the only hope for the next generation.

    A lot of what Driscoll says is blatantly worldly and for that reason I think he shouldn't have aspired to be a pastor. Cathy Mickels is right to say that there should be reverence for the pulpit. He says a lot that I like and other reformed Christians like, but he needs to repent. Really repent.

    That's my opinion. You should do a blog on Driscoll! Have Phil Johnson proof read it! haha but seriously, do a blog on Driscoll so I can read your thoughts too

    I'm getting married in 17 days boii!!!!!!

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